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| quote: | Originally posted by szm
I have an issue participating in this thread because first I dont even know if I should be critical of anything because a) I have issues of my own b) music is pretty free-form, there is no wrong only wrongly perceived in a way "does it fall into a standard" so idk.
ill give my shitter 2 cents.
first sounds half a lot better to me. I feel like you're having a somewhat similar problem to what I usually have, in the low end band.
its like you're pushing up the low band up in a smushy way. and the reverb on the bass doesnt seem aesthetically pleasing as you introduce more elements. I really like the ping pongy synth and the track is really cool as well.
its possible im totally wrong |
Nah, it's all good. And I think you *should* participate, at least...if it's something you enjoy doing. Plus, it's typically dead as shit here and...who cares? If I recall, you've actually released to a label yeah? Even further, I remember a lot of your mixing being rather educational for me. Raphie, was probably the other standout fella that had the patience / took the time to help a noob like me.
So yeah, if anyone's the shitter it's still me...I'm just an enthsuastic hobbyest 
You could probably criticize even the best of music until the cows come home...Such is the nature of art, and personal preference.
Would say though...that if 4/5 of the posters here said "Bass is an issue", then that'd be worth investigation. If only 1 said they didn't like it...well, then maybe preference? But to that end, the more...the merrier I think. Giving and receiving feedback here, has definitely helped my production value I'd say.
I do also think as the producer, it might be beneficial to note what sorta feedback one is looking for. Personally, any feedback at all is fine for me...I'm not picky. Just happy someone bothered listening tbfh.
Now, am I mixing industry standard? No. Absolutely not. Painfully aware of my gear/setup...and that it would require more money than I'm currently willing to throw at this. (A new house...) Listenable is a great achievement for me, anything deemed at or near-professional would be the absolute tits.
And in the world of beats by dre, ear-buds, and untrained ears...I think most people only care up to a certain point anyway.
I can definitely hear what you're talking about though. Attribute it more towards focusing on the sequencing and arrangement, than on the mix. An arrangement with good transitions / sound FX is where I struggle bad, as well as stitching together a coherent image/story...So that's where those 3-4 hours spent on it went. (Actually, most of it was spent just fucking around with automating gross-beat for the glitch/chopped sections)
Only other tidbits of interest...The first bass that comes in has 0 reverb, but does have a ping-pong delay with the lower cutoff set to 1khz. Per ancient wisdom, I tend to only make cuts with an EQ. I spent very little time auditioning the track on any of my other monitoring tools, and coincidentally...didn't really bother too much with the mix itself.
Putting it on my big system, revealed exactly what you brought up. Low-end sounded like mush, and the mid-range due to the big saws reverb gets drowned/washed out.
Things that could definitely be done : Ditch preset reverbs and use valhalla vintage instead...use cans and get everything sitting in the same acoustic space. Separate out sliced DnB kick and sequence separately...EQ and compress it separately for better punch/snap. (Which I thought about but didn't do because it's a pain in the ass)
Something I didn't do...is re-work the mix-down after all the elements were added. Usually ends up with me setting the kick at -6db, turning everything to zero, and bringing it all back in at the loudest section. I was just adding instrumentation in a hurry as I heard it...rather than getting bogged down in the mixing.
Could be interesting to take a pass at it in a few days on fresh ears and focus on the mix. Re-post it, and see if I'm just full of shit or not
Sorry, turned into a bit of a rant there...And of course, thanks for the listen and feedback.
Last edited by theterran on Feb-11-2024 at 01:32
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